Once you can get the title in your name only and can officially report it as stolen I would guess you'll find it rather quickly as law enforcement will be more likely to come across it since it's in their system as stolen.
Jeep Wrangler X illegally sold
- Thread starter Eamethyst
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chop shop if it hasn’t been brought up. if someone can’t title it. they likely sold it for parts by now.
It’s taken me more than six months to get to the point of being able to purchase a Jeep in NH because the owner passed while I was negotiating with him, and his successors couldn’t find the title. And in the process, I learned that even to scrap a vehicle in NH, you need to submit a valid title along with the car. Going about it correctly, it’s taken over half a year and lots of pencil-whipping (on the seller’s side, anyway) to get a title issued and transfer ownership. And these dirtbags just snagged an old title and sold it out from under you. That sucks.
I spent 15+ years in FL, parts of my 20s, all of my 30s, and into my 40s. I’m so %#$&ing happy to be out of there.
I spent 15+ years in FL, parts of my 20s, all of my 30s, and into my 40s. I’m so %#$&ing happy to be out of there.
what scares me is the states that allow a lost title scheme.
have a car sitting for too long and some one puts in a lost title on it. after six months the state issues them the title.
then the go grab the car off the property and they are the new owners.
have a car sitting for too long and some one puts in a lost title on it. after six months the state issues them the title.
then the go grab the car off the property and they are the new owners.
Oregon makes it super easy. This guy got caught...I've removed dozens of illegally dumped cars from the woods. Way too easy to sell them.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/portland-tow-truck-driver-stealing-143000832.html
-Mac
https://www.yahoo.com/news/portland-tow-truck-driver-stealing-143000832.html
-Mac
Ah. I remember that day well. What a little punk that Luke was.
But compared to Florida, I'll take Mos Eisley any day.
You have the title, so your Jeep was stolen. If you know the person, press charges and have them arrested. A felony for that and another for selling a vehicle that they didn't own. They should get a $50 fine and no jail time in the present state of the country. 
You have the title, so your Jeep was stolen. If you know the person, press charges and have them arrested. A felony for that and another for selling a vehicle that they didn't own. They should get a $50 fine, a gift card, free cell phone, and no jail time in the present state of the country.
fixed that for you, you're stuck in 2022 man, times have-a-changed. I shudder to think of what bonuses we'll be dolling out to criminals by 2026
You have the title, so your Jeep was stolen. If you know the person, press charges and have them arrested. A felony for that and another for selling a vehicle that they didn't own. They should get a $50 fine and no jail time in the present state of the country.
Don’t forget the preloaded debit card and luxury accommodations
CreepinDeth
TJ Addict
To recap
Friend passed away, and you tried to remove his name from the Jeep title and get a new title in your name only??
I only have one question
Do YOU have the legal right to remove someone who died from a title without consulting the next of kin who are entitled to his assets and likely had Power of Attorney after his death??
You and a friend co-owned a Jeep in Florida
Friend passed away, and you tried to remove his name from the Jeep title and get a new title in your name only??
I only have one question
Do YOU have the legal right to remove someone who died from a title without consulting the next of kin who are entitled to his assets and likely had Power of Attorney after his death??
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After rereading the details, his estate legally owns half of the Jeep after his passing. My wife is still paying $350 a month to her dead husband's estate. He's been dead for 10 years now, but he got a judgement against her before he died and after she left him. He remarried (no kids) and now my wife has to pay his widow the money. Talk about a kick in the ass. Life isn't fair sometimes.
CreepinDeth
TJ Addict
Correct
So the timing of a “reissued” title will be called into question ESPECIALLY if the OP tried to remove the 2nd name from the title, around the sametime as his demise or after
At least on the surface, this appears both parties were trying to seize exclusive control of an asset without due process or communication to the others involved.
Unless the OP has some kind of notarized legal letter showing the 2nd owners identification and signature relinquishing the asset, the “New” title could be called into legal question also
Nothing criminal here, this is 100% civil
Both parties were 50 / 50 owners
Good luck
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First thing that crosses my mind: Sounds like Jerry has a new Jeep.
@Eamethyst
If you and a friend held title jointly at one time, your friend died, and his family took possession and sold the jeep under claim of right under laws of intestate succession, what you have is a civil case rather than a criminal case for car theft even though you have a title in your hand that post dates the title they have in their hand. Who is to say which title is valid? A judge will have to decide that.
In addition, you may not have a valid claim against the purchasers of the jeep if they had no knowledge of the title issue, were provided with an original title certificate, were able to transfer title and register the vehicle, and paid reasonable market value in an arm's length transaction.
You make many legal conclusions that are not supported by the facts of your story, and many relevant facts are missing.
Legal advice you receive on internet Jeep forums will be worth what you pay for it - zero.
Since the alleged wrongful acts took place in Florida, and the jeep was located in Florida at all relevant times, you should find a Florida attorney to assist you.
But ask yourself this - Is going to all this trouble for what appears to be a beater jeep with limited monetary value that you never use worth the time and expense? If I were in your position I would answer this question for myself before handing over a retainer to an attorney. You might be better off walking away and using the retainer money to buy another jeep.
If you and a friend held title jointly at one time, your friend died, and his family took possession and sold the jeep under claim of right under laws of intestate succession, what you have is a civil case rather than a criminal case for car theft even though you have a title in your hand that post dates the title they have in their hand. Who is to say which title is valid? A judge will have to decide that.
In addition, you may not have a valid claim against the purchasers of the jeep if they had no knowledge of the title issue, were provided with an original title certificate, were able to transfer title and register the vehicle, and paid reasonable market value in an arm's length transaction.
You make many legal conclusions that are not supported by the facts of your story, and many relevant facts are missing.
Legal advice you receive on internet Jeep forums will be worth what you pay for it - zero.
Since the alleged wrongful acts took place in Florida, and the jeep was located in Florida at all relevant times, you should find a Florida attorney to assist you.
But ask yourself this - Is going to all this trouble for what appears to be a beater jeep with limited monetary value that you never use worth the time and expense? If I were in your position I would answer this question for myself before handing over a retainer to an attorney. You might be better off walking away and using the retainer money to buy another jeep.
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In Arizona a title may be held as "and/or" which is a joint tenancy with right of survivorship. The surviving owner gets the entire vehicle, but if they are alive both owner's signatures are required to transfer ownership. This seems to me to be what the OP is describing. Maybe Wisconsin has the same?
Andy