To lift or not to lift?

I did some really nice trails with 30 inch tires on our Lj and our Xj . Recently I decided to go to 33 inch tires and now I'm topping $7000 getting it where it is now . I did change some of the parts because they were original and they were going to be off so I replaced them with quality parts . The 4.88 gears and Eaton Trutrac differentials sure are nice :) .

If I had figured up the total first , I may not have done it . We've been trail riding it for 11 years basically stock . Looking forward to hitting the trails again to see how it performs . We finally added a winch too , we used to carry a large come-a-long with a 4ft extendable handle (overkill) . Fortunately we never had to use the come a long , but the chainsaw is a different story :) . I highly recommend having a chainsaw on board when riding trails in wooded areas .

Ya, I definitely wont be doing that to this current jeep.. I am pretty sure the beating its about to take from teaching my kids manual might be worse then trail wear and tear hahaa..

So funny story, My wife asked me Saturday night if i was done buying jeep parts. :ROFLMAO:
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Personally , if I wanted a manual transmission I would buy one with a manual rather than swap it over unless I just wanted a project .
I've done it a few times on trucks , but now I guess I'm getting lazy :)
 
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Ouch, I’m lucky to be a Texan with a Texas TJ. That’s a bummer. But, seems sound, teaching on 2 fronts, but my boys didn’t get all the rusty broken bolts experience, ha. They leaned to drive the manual, and change the thermostat in the dorm parking lot at TTech, was a cool test (he didn’t think so, ha)

I remember wrenching in various parking lots at Texas Tech. Finally met a guy off the forums that had a rent house he’d let me wrench at.

OP, good on you for getting the kids involved. I’m glad my dad did it with me, with our old bronco.
 
I remember wrenching in various parking lots at Texas Tech. Finally met a guy off the forums that had a rent house he’d let me wrench at.

OP, good on you for getting the kids involved. I’m glad my dad did it with me, with our old bronco.

That's awesome. My son did it in the dorm parking lot, and was 35 degrees an windy, he was not a happy camper, ha.
 
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It's your Jeep, do what makes you happy (except no light bars or angry grills, that's just not right).
I searched for two years to find my low mileage, rust free Unlimited, Rubicon TJ, or LJR. 4.0, manual 6 speed, stock, both tops. I added a new radio, front bumper, and winch. It was worth it and will be my last auto purchase.
All of my kids learned to drive in a manual transmission TJ. They also learned how an automobile works, the location of the major parts, and their functions.
I live in So Central TX, so not much wheeling in my neighborhood. However, I am two hours from Padre Island National Seashore. I don't need a lift and don't need the expense of doing it correctly. I run a stock LJR with 31" tires. Some people say the LJR looks silly with 31s. I think it looks fine.
The winch lets me help people who are stuck in the sand, and have done so many times.
Your biggest challenge will be managing the rust. I lived in the NE for 8 years and watched my '78 CJ-7 die of rust cancer before my eyes. If possible, garage it during highway de-icing season. If not possible, I suggest you find a car wash with underbody sprayers and wash it after every de-icing exposure. Every spring you must get under it and inspect for rust. As soon as you find it, treat it There are plenty of threads on here about preventing and treating rust.
Mostly, just have fun with your Jeep!
 
It's your Jeep, do what makes you happy (except no light bars or angry grills, that's just not right).
I searched for two years to find my low mileage, rust free Unlimited, Rubicon TJ, or LJR. 4.0, manual 6 speed, stock, both tops. I added a new radio, front bumper, and winch. It was worth it and will be my last auto purchase.
All of my kids learned to drive in a manual transmission TJ. They also learned how an automobile works, the location of the major parts, and their functions.
I live in So Central TX, so not much wheeling in my neighborhood. However, I am two hours from Padre Island National Seashore. I don't need a lift and don't need the expense of doing it correctly. I run a stock LJR with 31" tires. Some people say the LJR looks silly with 31s. I think it looks fine.
The winch lets me help people who are stuck in the sand, and have done so many times.
Your biggest challenge will be managing the rust. I lived in the NE for 8 years and watched my '78 CJ-7 die of rust cancer before my eyes. If possible, garage it during highway de-icing season. If not possible, I suggest you find a car wash with underbody sprayers and wash it after every de-icing exposure. Every spring you must get under it and inspect for rust. As soon as you find it, treat it There are plenty of threads on here about preventing and treating rust.
Mostly, just have fun with your Jeep!

Since this project started my son has jumped in and we have all been enjoying tinkering. That itself has been worth the investment. I've said it earlier but we don't plan on too many mods for this jeep.. but I have been on the lookout for another for sale as a donor that comes with soft-top and half doors. Right now researching stock shocks to replace what I'm pretty sure are the originals lol.. I have gone a bit crazy and picked up a windshield frame and a 2003 frame from a parts yard for pretty cheap. The frame is a little damaged in the front but nothing the frame machine cant straighten out easily, $300 figured it was worth a shot. I know the steering box and mid skid is different but doesn't seem like a big deal if i decide to use it.
To be honest even the little things have made us grin, like the hard top thumb screws, dash organizer, and new radiator cap. etc. ... :LOL:
It wont see any salty roads, and for now we are scraping/wire wheeling/ lanolin coating just to keep it until a decision is made about full replacement or finding a jeep from the no salt states.

So far the kids have done; gas tank skid, fuel pump, fuel regulator, fuel line, brake lines, evap line, all the brakes, plugs/wires, oil filled bronze door bushings on one side, rear diff/oil/tranny fluids, and a bunch of general clean up. The only wiring I've had to mess with are the front fender marker lights.
Going to get an inspection sticker today, It failed two days ago for the windshield fluid motor not working, quick fix.
Shocks next then maybe valve cover and associated pieces.
Trying to stick to things we can do in a few hours during the summer so we can still bomb around.
 
Since this project started my son has jumped in and we have all been enjoying tinkering. That itself has been worth the investment. I've said it earlier but we don't plan on too many mods for this jeep.. but I have been on the lookout for another for sale as a donor that comes with soft-top and half doors. Right now researching stock shocks to replace what I'm pretty sure are the originals lol.. I have gone a bit crazy and picked up a windshield frame and a 2003 frame from a parts yard for pretty cheap. The frame is a little damaged in the front but nothing the frame machine cant straighten out easily, $300 figured it was worth a shot. I know the steering box and mid skid is different but doesn't seem like a big deal if i decide to use it.
To be honest even the little things have made us grin, like the hard top thumb screws, dash organizer, and new radiator cap. etc. ... :LOL:
It wont see any salty roads, and for now we are scraping/wire wheeling/ lanolin coating just to keep it until a decision is made about full replacement or finding a jeep from the no salt states.

So far the kids have done; gas tank skid, fuel pump, fuel regulator, fuel line, brake lines, evap line, all the brakes, plugs/wires, oil filled bronze door bushings on one side, rear diff/oil/tranny fluids, and a bunch of general clean up. The only wiring I've had to mess with are the front fender marker lights.
Going to get an inspection sticker today, It failed two days ago for the windshield fluid motor not working, quick fix.
Shocks next then maybe valve cover and associated pieces.
Trying to stick to things we can do in a few hours during the summer so we can still bomb around.

It isn’t a huge deal use the later frame at all.